Learn how your comment data is processed. I used to trust/ swear by WD. Thank you Patrick. @Nikolay: It’s a virtual certainty anything larger than 2TB in 2.5″ is SMR. We are using a third party service to manage subscriptions so you can unsubscribe at any time. The biggest, by far, is cost. So if I have describe a target SSD that is larger, so be it. In this piece, we wanted to go through the central issue, perspectives of the stakeholders, and how this gets fixed going forward. The main benefit of SMR, and why the technology is used, is because these large customers demand higher data densities and lower cost per PB numbers, even if individual drive performance is not great. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in. While the dollar value of a customer may not be high to a manufacturer, the value of those drives in storing precious data can be high. 255ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 68s 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 I suspected as much but they are not the only ones. Feel free to listen to that one instead of reading this article during your busy day. Likely the use of SMR technology was seen as a benefit to delivering less expensive drives in the market when many users simply would have no idea a switch from CMR to SMR was made. Summing up the above perspective, we are at a pretty classical case, but one that is not attractive. 15ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Really interesting article, shame i didn’t see it when it came out, right when i bought a 4tb wd red, not to save money but because it was the right capacity for my expected usage (should be many years before it gets even 50% full). Most of our readers prefer our web articles, but this is a piece with less hardware and more discussion. Within 10 years I don’t see HDs being viable vs SSDs. It seems like the ill will has to be costing them much more. I have read these drives can be very slow when used for mixed read and write workloads. If using a SMR platter means you can create a drive with a lower cost or fewer number of platters, then that yields big savings. If ANYONE believes that three makers actually did this in the same sizing and product ranges independently, I have a string of bridges over the Thames I’d like to sell them, cheap and can do an extra special deal on the one next to the Tower of London. By opting-in you agree to have us send you our newsletter. Even that Toshiba paper mentioned earlier discusses that the technology is for higher-capacity drives, not low-capacity drives such as in the sub 6TB segment. SMR technology has been around for years. SATDREAM.TECH : informations et aide au choix de disques durs dans le cadre d'une utilisation personnelle. @Tomas H.: I too wondered, but than was extremly satisfied by the most comprehensive, complete, neutral, clear but strong analysis and stand against this semi-cartel’s actions (which boarder on fraud, IMHO). 8us 0 0 0 0 29.7K 2.17K 269K 1.32M 1.01M 0 Thank you for doing this on behalf of everyone that values their data. If the manufacturers really wanted to use SMR for the original purpose they’d be making 18TB SMR drives and not use SMR at all for capacities under about 8 TB. These things are marketed as home units, so are the desktop drives. Many consumers may be priced out of the market. Seagate are – of course – Seagate… So far we know that the Barracuda, Barracuda compute (sold to us as “perfomance storage”) and storage drives are SMR but they’re staying quiet and are likely to do so until forced to open up. Think about desktop drives. While many of our readers in the US may think of these segments as very small or struggling businesses or consumers without exorbitant means, that is a very narrow view of the world. I’m in the UK. The main selling point to me was the fact these were labeled as INTERNAL, I have an old power supply on the machine I wanted to put them in, so when the only way the 2 drives I purchased would read and work is I had to tape the 3.3v pin. If you have never traveled and spent time seeing this dynamic first-hand, it is actually difficult to empathize with. 65us 8.69M 6 9.76M 8 4.65K 83 29.0K 75.0K 87.9K 2 The returned Noisier, hot Drive was a WD80EMAZ-00M9AA0 with the same specs. 268ms 248K 642K 147K 37.3K 5.48K 0 22.5K 487K 71.9K 0 2ms 269K 507K 363K 604K 298 1 7.18K 161K 81.9K 12 It’s telling that the manufacturers don’t utilise SMR in high-capacity 8-16TB drives for the most part, despite SMR’s purpose being to get more density (=higher capacity drives). 262us 8.80M 1.15M 8.52M 1.19M 402 0 11.4K 55.4K 182K 0 There’s a reason a SMR desktop drive has utterly rotten performance if used as a boot drive (remember WD Blacks are sold as performance drives, so are Barracudas), or if used to load up games containing loats and lots of files. Samsing parked a howitzer across town with the 4TB 860QVO and their 16/31TB SM886 drives, Micron have done one better than that: Their Enterprise archival/coldstorage 5210 ION drives – intended to take on 10krpm SMR drives – were recently reduced by about 40% and are now only double the price of spinning Enterprise SMR media, 3.96TB – £308+VAT(380+tax), 7.96TB – £580+VAT($680+tax), This is very much “tanks parked on the hdd factory lawn”, These are only rated at 0.2-0.8DWPD, but as Micron point out, that’s still more rewrites than comparable storage gets – and I’ll point out that this kind of drive at this kind of endurance will match 80-90% of home workloads – which tend to be write once anyway, “the boresights are squarely aimed at SMR drives”. scan: resilver in progress since Mon Apr 20 20:16:49 2020 Oh, I agree. Mon 27 Apr 18:40:07 BST 2020, scsi-SATA_ST4000VN008-2DR1_ZGY6SM46 total_wait disk_wait syncq_wait asyncq_wait Initial failure rate was 2% – 2 drives out each pool of 96 failed within the stress period – and were swapped out with the spares I bought at the same time. That brings us to the consumer perspective. Host-managed SMR is where hosts and software are designed specifically to optimize and send commands for SMR drives. In other words, where HDD makers are now finding themselves. I have checked 75 percent of my WD RED drives so far and they are all CMR drives; their part number does not match what WD says are the WD RED SMR drives. 34s 37.9K 597K 2 6.05K 0 0 110 552K 37.7K 0 This prompted me to go back and check on the specs for the drives that I'd installed in the ReadyNAS. The vast majority of storage that consumers and SMBs have access to assume CMR drives to the point that many do not look at whether a drive is CMR or SMR, even though SMR can have a massive impact on the operation of an array. In fact, if you look at the ATA specs written several years ago to accommodate SMR, it was designed to deliberately hide the fact that a drive is DM-SMR from the host. We attempt to answer the burning question of whether the WD100EMAZ (Easystore white label) is the same as the WD100EFAX (WD Red) 10TB hard drive. We’re now blacklisting WD Red drives and going to Seagate IronWolf’s. If you have any helpful information please feel free to post on the forums. That is whether they are what Western Digital, Seagate, and Toshiba think are high-value customers where this information is disclosed, or those it considers such low-value customers that the companies actively hide this information. We now know these are down to the desktop drives in the linux desktop computers we were using as NFS cache units…. status: One or more devices is currently being resilvered. 67ms 770K 706K 682K 1.16M 10.4K 0 32.9K 394K 89.0K 0 Toshiba’s “voluntary” disclosure to Chris Mellor misses out the status of their NAS, Survellance, Videostreaming and enterprise storage ranges. What about all those “megafast NVMe” drives that are only fast until their SLC cache runs out then For 'Shuckers' this will usually contain a WD100EMAZ-00WJTA0 'White' Drive, with apparently a small chance of being a WD Red drive. 3ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ————————————————– —– —– —– —– —– —– —– —– —– —– 16us 0 0 0 0 9.23K 367 115K 340K 979K 0 It seems WD are STILL attempting to minimise the issues and as the call cut off about that point – about 30 minutes in – I’m not really in a mood to play their silly games. And what I have described might not be a SSD worth producing due to low production volume and/or low demand (too small of a consumer group). If I had known 6TB Reds were SMR I wouldn’t have minded shelling out a little more for an 8TB drive. One of the key reasons that this whole SMR in the consumer market is problematic is twofold. El problema es que WD pasó de usar tecnologia CMR a SMR en los WD Red sin avisar. As Patrick has pointed out, some customers pay much higher prices compared to similar goods in other countries, so expect that consumer segment to get stuck between the proverbial rock & hard place. 1ms 669K 3.00M 703K 3.08M 372 0 5.87K 149K 149K 0 And after some coaxing, said that they are both PMR, but that doesn’t make sense because of the weight of the drives and their buffer sizes. To get the right price, open the link above, then in the "Frequently bought together" Section at the bottom, deselect the other offerings, then "Add To Cart". 1ms 300K 489K 331K 683K 530 4 18.0K 135K 93.2K 1 Let us start with why consumers and small businesses buy hard drives, especially NAS drives. With that knowledge, customers need to trust storage. There is a subtle distinction but is one that was not worded with a pledge for future transparency. Recently, when replacing a drive in another device, I stumbled on the information about SMR vs. CMR technology. ”, No. Do the WD100EMAZ 10TB shucks described in your article “Building a TrueNAS Core 8-bay mATX ZFS NAS” employ SMR techniques? Would it be better to divide it into two separate pools? Those prices are a smidgen over 3 times the cost of a WD RED – but you get a 5 year warranty + power loss protection – which samsung’s (more expensive) 860QVO can’t match. WD’s April 22nd turnaround happened about 12 hours after I informed them of the last 2 paragraphs and that the only hope they had of mitigating penalties was to come clean and documente all their DM-SMR drives plus their roadmap for the future. At times when many of the decades long leaders in this space have abandoned real journalism, and replaced it with rewording PR statements, “Just buy it” pseudo reviews, and SEO-optimzed crap content factorys. Plus, let us be realistic here, there are a lot of people who just do not care or know how any of this stuff works. This is slam dunk tort for imposition of costs in contract and the deception involved is directly punitive multiplication at least in England I’d be on my way to high court over this already. I’ve actually read that post, but there are others that claim they might be. I see people shucking externals, without realizing that they are NOT drives meant for RAID duty and are cold storage drives – write lightly and then put somewhere safe. 2ms 500K 3.30M 587K 3.74M 529 0 6.89K 180K 140K 0 If they did “seek the knowledge” they would not have found it. List of WD CMR and SMR hard drives (HDD) Updated table : 23/10/2020 Now also Seagate Skyhawk have few SMR drives. When we look beyond the US, smaller customers have to face distribution challenges, currency, and local market gaps, and well as tariffs that can make 2TB to 6TB drives relatively very expensive. You can read the full statement here. 1 Mil Kapton Tape (Polyimide) - 1/2" X 36 Yds, WD 12TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive, USB 3.0 - WDBWLG0120HBK-NESN, Seagate BarraCuda 8TB Internal Hard Drive HDD – 3.5 Inch Sata 6 Gb/s 5400 RPM 256MB Cache for Computer Desktop PC – Frustration Free Packaging (ST8000DM004). 3: These SMR drives are frequently entering the market at higher prices than their CMR predecessors If these corps. 10TB Western Digital WD100EMAZ Hard Drive SATA 6Gb/s 256MB. continue to function, possibly in a degraded state. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. 511ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 I prefer Toshiba and HGST (WD now unfortunately) over plain WD any day. It will be very interesting to see some realistic performance numbers (not just pure read or pure write benchmarks) for that newly assembled NAS. etc.). I think it is possible that the HDD makers will see this debacle as a chance to further segment the marketplace. First, the drive manufacturers are using DMSMR which effectively hides the SMR label from host systems and customers. It is beyond shady to sell SMR in part numbers that should be CMR. I’ve spent the best past of the last 12 months chasing ghostly “intermittent network hangs” around the workplace. There's a problem loading this menu right now. Here, the case is not performance nor reliability. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. (Seagate, Tosh and WD drives, depending on whatever HP was putting in their £1300 Eltedesk800s that day), The problem is far from over: On the WD blog page, there’s a link to support with a specific number to call for WD REDs – which from the UK was answered by someone speaking spanish, who then knew nothing about WD RED issues, but pulled up a canned statement that “we have been informed there is a minor problem in 3rd party NAS system where they may not perform properly in some RAID configurations which we do not recommend”. This also claims the WD80EFAX are not SMR. They are using SMR in their “premium” WD Red NAS drives. I am looking to purchase an external 10TB drive to shuck, but i'm not sure what the differences are between the two are; do you mind filling me in? There are consumers and businesses who have tight budgets and cannot afford higher capacity hard drives for their storage. I bought a 6TB Red drive last year and I noticed the performance initially appeared great (the drive’s CMR portion) which then plummeted since. 268ms 893K 1.19M 869K 1.52M 3.81K 0 51.2K 622K 116K 0 8ms 162K 558K 197K 1.03M 85 0 4.24K 250K 49.5K 1.67K I just want to know why it took you so long to comment on this. 4: In the case of REDs – they are MARKETED as RAID drives, so telling people that “We only mean some kinds of raid” when previous iterations worked perfectly is gaslighting Seagate, for its part, is still using CMR in IronWolf alternatives. 65us 16.4M 0 17.1M 0 1.89K 11 27.2K 56.4K 174K 0 Recently it was discovered that many hard drives being sold are indeed shingled magnetic recording (SMR) instead of more conventional technology. It is hard to come from the perspective of having access to every piece of hardware at relatively inexpensive prices and remember that everyone is not as fortunate. That is a similar concept, just at faster transfer rates than in the hard drive world. Then I would send my bill including for the replacement performant array, to the vendor. TDMR - Two-Dimentional Magnetic … Disappointing article. As SSDs get closer to hard drives in terms of price per TB (and in some ways performance) selling a hard drive becomes a challenge. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. 8us 0 0 0 0 230K 10.5K 428K 4.50M 777K 2 Effectively write patterns are changed which allows denser data recording. I think it’s in WD’s interest to label SMR vs CMR also because it gives people an incentive to buy higher-capacity CMR drives. Micron’s 5100ECO/5100MAX/5300 enterprise SATA lines start at double those figures, but they’re Nearline drives and will take on CMR workloads. 1us 0 0 0 0 850 1 15.8K 1.63K 86.2K 0 Considering how unclear Seagate is with their datasheets and their somewhat unclear statements regarding what drives have undocumented SMR it makes it far more annoying at this point because I wouldn’t be surprised if they have more SMR drives which they haven’t listed as such. The part number is different.” Indeed it is, but Joe Consumer and Jane Small Business Owner don’t know how to tell the difference. 7ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Seagate IronWolf 8TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD – CMR 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM... Seagate IronWolf Pro ST12000NE0008 12 TB 7200RPM 256MB 3.5" SATA (SATA/600) Hard Dr... LaCie 5Big Thunderbolt 2 30TB External RAID Hard Drive (STFC30000400). Instead I purchased these 10TB not just 1 but 2 hard drives. In the past the 2TB to 6TB market would get drives riding down the cost curve, now that’s no longer possible. Hard drive manufacturers typically see volumes driven from hyper-scale customers, large PC/ server/ storage OEMs/ ODMs, and then large distribution partners. 31ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 31ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5: These are sold as home/soho devices – so this kind of thing falls under Consumer Protection laws. Filled out an online email form and received no answer. There’s no way in the ATA or SMR specs for the host to know the way they can with host-managed and host-aware SMR. Over the past few years, the industry has had a mantra of SMR is for large storage systems with sequential I/O. This is a shucked external drive falsely advertised and the label change to show it as being an internal drive when in fact it's not. In many ways, they have if you look at the mobile markets. 4us 0 0 0 0 589K 33.1K 2.37M 7.82M 16.4M 0 Let us be clear, in 2020, there are a few reasons one buys a 2TB to 6TB hard drive. It is almost impossible for a customer to navigate this purposeful lack of disclosure at the lower-end. 4ms 515K 1.13M 587K 1.15M 1.11K 0 10.3K 217K 134K 0 Despite being a good thing that we now know at least some of the drives with undocumented SMR, I’ve been tracking a Swiss retailer’s prices for HDDs and even just between last week and this week they increased the price on all Ironwolf/Ironwolf Pro drives by about 10 CHF ($10) while the SMR drives stayed at the same price. You have entered an incorrect email address! Western Digital 6TB WD Red NAS Internal Hard Drive - 5400 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, SMR, 256MB Cache, 3.5" - WD60EFAX Seagate IronWolf 10TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD – CMR 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB Cache for RAID Network Attached Storage, with Rescue Service (ST10000VN0008) Does ZFS have settings to optimise for SMR drives? To many, a $60 premium to move from a 1TB hard drive to a 1TB SSD is offset by better performance and reliability. I am curious how much this is saving WD per drive? Saving $0.50 or $1 here in manufacturing costs can make or break a product in the market. 1us 0 0 0 0 12 7 99 47 35.0K 0 The oligopoly of hard drive manufacturers, at some point, decided that moving to DMSMR for these lower capacity customers would help support the market and pricing. I am interested in higher capacity and higher density SSDs because the alternative is not having enough SATA connectors to hook it all up in a reasonable consumer-sized case. 15ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Think about the worst possible case scenario for SMR drives – lots of concurrrent reads and writes – and now think about how most filesystems work – can anyone say “access time metadata updates” ? I have had 1 Intel SSD “go marginal” (reports 80 percent life remaining, maybe less now) simply due to be written so much; I think it has Micron TLC tech inside, but it’s on the shelf now. Effectively, buyers in the 2TB to 6TB market are often ones who do not know about SMR v. CMR or have no other choice. Still, it seems like this is the type of information that should be disclosed to customers clearly on datasheets of all hard drive products, even external hard drives sold in the channel. Feel free to listen to that one instead of reading this article during your busy day. Just wait until the Easystores have an extra level of lottery to the drive inside. This kind of thing should be the first thing after the HDD designator. Patrick is a consultant in the technology industry and has worked with numerous large hardware and storage vendors in the Silicon Valley. A big reason the storage market is littered with failed startups is just how long it takes to garner that trust because data is important, and it is vital. Hey guys, new to DataHoarder here and i'm having a bit of trouble understanding the difference between the WD100EMAZ and WD100EZAZ. 536ms 111K 354K 34.4K 2.93K 2.12K 0 13.7K 276K 47.8K 0 4s 61.1K 17 93 12 0 0 0 5 61.0K 0 Low capacity also means a lower dollar per drive metric. A fairly standard line for dealing with PR issues like this is something along the lines of: Usually, that message is delivered by an executive to put a face behind the pledge to do better. The reputational risk of data loss or just fear that you might are greater than the enterprise in most small professional companies, If you haven’t watched the video you can just watch starting here https://youtu.be/gSionmmunMs?t=1328, That’s like how my dad used to tell me my friends and I were being dumb@$$es. Seagate IronWolf 10TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD – CMR 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RP... Toshiba HDWG21CXZSTA N300 12TB NAS 3.5-inch Internal Hard Drive - CMR SATA 6 Gb/s 7... FD 10TB 7200RPM Hard Drive Upgrade Kit with Seagate IronWolf Pro ST10000NE0008, FD ... Seagate Barracuda Pro SATA HDD 10TB 7200RPM 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Har... WP Arsenal 10TB SATA 7200RPM 3.5-Inch DAS Hard Drive. Since the story broke, principally by Chris Mellor at Blocks and Files, there has been a lot of discussions online. The big question is whether the large hard drive manufacturers are able to take this as a learning opportunity and be honest and open about their specs. 現実のSMRの動作なんてどうでも良いらしいよ? 412 :Socket774 :2020/01/23(木) 16:45:25. I agree, WD has acted in a shady way by slipping SMR drives into the supply chain. Saving $1 per drive adds up when you are selling tens of millions of drives per quarter. As for SSDs and QLC tech, no thanks, not even for my “cold storage” systems; QLC or QVO tech still seems terribly unproven to me and mostly unexplored by tech web sites. Please try again. Second, the drive manufacturers are not telling the market they are or may be selling DMSMR drives. It’s been under discussion for at least 5 years but one of the problems is that DM-SMR drives seldom admit that they are SMR drives (they’re supposed to return a “zoned media” response. 262us 1.54M 587K 1.38M 590K 2.36K 29 29.6K 74.6K 76.5K 0 Mon 27 Apr 18:38:49 BST 2020, scsi-SATA_WDC_WD40EFAX-68J_WD-WX12D10xxxxx total_wait disk_wait syncq_wait asyncq_wait The net result is that the way a consumer finds it is indeed a DMSMR is that they see evidence of the performance differences which can take the form of RAID arrays failing rebuilds as a scary case. Also, fewer drives mean less vibration, noise, power consumption, and heat. At the time it appeared just odd but now I know. It can be satisfied by updating marketing materials for the nine drives it already has. latency read write read write read write read write scrub trim Having a backup of that data is important whether it is in a PC, NAS, or the cloud. In the US (N.Y.), I would report this to the NYS Atty. 1ns 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Unable to add item to List. That said of course consumers deserve to know what tech is in their drives. 131us 11.5M 152K 10.8M 170K 3.33K 47 28.4K 56.6K 80.2K 0 Get the best of STH delivered weekly to your inbox. The fact that the market is having to pressure hard drive vendors into disclosing this information means that an educated consumer could not get the technology they want. I’ve been reading and hearing about this SMR mess the past few weeks and was wondering if the MFRs would change and begin disclosing to all of their customers, not just disclosing on the more expensive enterprise drives. Find answers in product info, Q&As, reviews. Effectively where we are is that the oligopoly of hard drive manufacturers is using inferior technology, without disclosing it, on classes of customers who have no realistic alternatives to protect their vital assets and livelihoods. Please make sure that you are posting in the form of a question. I think SMR vs CMR should be required on the spec sheet just like how cameras basically need to list sensor size. Yes Crucial P1 I’m looking at you. I’d call this balanced but firm. 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While the industry recognizes its use as a tool, especially with larger storage pools, they also undertook, as an industry, a campaign to educate the market that SMR was not for most buyers. 8ms 599K 489K 639K 342K 2.88K 0 16.7K 247K 165K 0 Previous page of related Sponsored Products, Western Digital 8TB WD Red Plus NAS Internal Hard Drive - 5400 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, CMR, 256 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD80EFAX, Seagate IronWolf 10TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD – CMR 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB Cache for RAID Network Attached Storage (ST10000VN0008) (ST10000VNZ008/N0008), Synology DiskStation DS220j NAS & Toshiba N300 Hard Drives, Reviewed in the United States on March 5, 2020. ( think Income tax return, insurance, license application, proof of citizenship, etc. Personally, it is something that I try to pay particular attention to whenever I am editing our team’s work. This is the official company position, however, no executive seemed to want to take ownership of it which seemed a bit strange. Top subscription boxes – right to your door, Nationwide Tech Biz (Serial number recorded), © 1996-2020, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. In the SSD world, this is very similar to how modern QLC SSDs often buffer writes in SLC then transition to slower or higher density storage later. Patrick has been running STH since 2009 and covers a wide variety of SME, SMB, and SOHO IT topics. then there was a flood in Thailand and prices more than doubled 1s 61.5K 65.4K 4.47K 884 139 0 4.87K 49.9K 46.0K 0 And the PR from them only is making it worse. These are customers who lack other options or purchasing power and the hard drive manufacturers are treating them worse because of it. If the WD60EFAX was replaced tomorrow by a WD60EFAX-V2, the company has not committed to disclosing what technology is used. Now my data is at risk, well it was before but now I know it and I can’t do a lot because of the pandemic… Ideal. To a drive vendor, if you want CMR, the answer is simple. I hope WD receives some very stiff fines for their actions at the least, or maybe worse YJMV (Your Jurisdiction May Vary). Well explained and fair perspective. The best solution would be for drive manufacturers to provide a way for the host to know it’s dealing with a DM-SMR drive, and for OS and NAS providers to write code that takes it into account. We have a video version on YouTube if you prefer to listen instead. 16ms 898K 386K 938K 434K 4.96K 0 24.1K 245K 142K 0 Found the Toshiba paper they linked and showed in the market would that... 6Tb market is not enough system considers things like how cameras basically need to storage. Sell product and advertise their safety/reliability they need to trust storage finding themselves good about. Like silicon, we ’ ve got a satellite operation in Argentina dug! 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